Saturday, January 24, 2009

Camel SNUS vs. Swedish Snus. A snus review solely on taste!

Greetings Snustopians!

Today, I thought we’d do something a little different in the way of snus reviews. Instead of just reviewing one kind of Swedish snus, I thought we would do a review that compared American snus against Swedish snus.

The Snustopian Ministry of Information has been flooded with questions about the differences between the two lately that, I feel this is necessary to further your journey into the wonderful world of Swedish snus and Snustopia! One warning though, this review will not contain scientific data regarding TSNA levels, amounts of nicotine and guest speakers from the medical factions or anything like that.

We are going to review both types as we always do and compare the tastes, portion materials, mouth feel and their differences. My great friend and colleague Mr. UNZ, Snus Guru at SnusCENTRAL.org has articles that will give you all the data above. We’re just concerned with taste! So, with that out of the way, let’s begin our journey!

It seems like just yesterday when I began my journey into snus. As you all remember from the first blogs, I began with Camel SNUS and within a few weeks, became a huge fan and supporter of true Swedish snus.


Between then and now, I’ve reviewed a lot of different Swedish snus varieties but, never did compare them to American versions. Why you may ask? Simple, Camel SNUS was the only one I could find locally back then!

Another thing that’s happened since the beginning is that Camel SNUS has gained more popularity in the US recently. Because of this, people need to know what the differences in tastes are before deciding which is best.

When I began with Camel SNUS, the first thing that hit me was the taste. Camel SNUS Spice had the taste of sweet pumpkin spices, which I like, but it was sweet! The other flavors in the Camel family (Frost and Original) were sweet as well.

Swedish snus on the other hand is not sweet. It’s just the opposite, salty. Not heavy salt taste like liking a salt block just, salty. “But Snus Guy, wouldn’t sweet taste better than salty?” It depends actually. You have to understand the difference each makes in the way things taste before you can answer that question. I’ll try to explain a bit.

In my opinion, adding a bit of salt to any food will bring the flavors of the food out. Consequentially, adding sugar to foods will tend to mask the flavor of them. The same theory works when applied to snus. Sweet snus, like Camel SNUS, tastes good initially but, all you really taste is the sweetness. Once it’s gone, so is the flavor. Salty snus, like Swedish snus, tastes a little salty initially but, after a few minutes you begin to taste the underlying flavors that the snus was intended to be. For example let’s take Röda Lacket portions.

Initially, Röda Lacket has a salty flavor but after a few minutes, you get the taste of berries, Anise and tobacco which lasts quite a long time! (Can you guess what the next review will be? ;>) ) Camel Frost on the other hand, starts off sweet and Wintergreen tasting but, after 30 minutes, becomes tasteless.

So, to recap taste, Camel SNUS is sweet and flavorful but, the flavor only lasts for about 30 minutes at the most and can taste a little synthetic. Swedish snus is mildly salty for the first 10 minutes or so. After that, the intended flavors come out and can last for over an hour! Swedish flavors are natural tasting because natural food grade flavorings are used.

Another major difference between the two is this. Swedish snus production is overseen by the Swedish version of the FDA. Since it is used orally, Swedish snus must comply with the same food safety standards as a cheeseburger would in Sweden. Unfortunately Camel SNUS, as far as we know, is not.

The portion materials are very different as well. Actually, there are many differences in the portions themselves. Let’s look at the material first. Since Camel SNUS’ portions are small and white, we’ll compare them to Swedish White portions. The two are somewhat similar in appearance. The similarities being the color of the portions and both types use a tea bag like material but, that’s where the similarities end!

Camel SNUS pouches tend to be tube shaped (long and round) while Swedish snus portions are pillow shaped, meaning they are more rectangular and shorter. You may think that shape doesn’t really make a difference but, when it’s in your upper lip, it really does! And that brings us to mouth feel.

Mouth feel is important because you can’t enjoy the flavors if you’re not comfortable with the portion in your lip! I said before that both Swedish snus and Camel SNUS both use a tea bag like material but, in my opinion, the materials feel different.

Camel SNUS uses a material that tends to be a little hard on the gums. This is for two reasons. One, the material feels rougher in and out of the lip, wet or dry. Two, is the shape of the pouch. Since it’s longer, it sits farther back than Swedish snus pouches and will rub when it moves.

Swedish snus, particularly White portions, are easier on the gums. In part because the material just has a softer feel in and out of the mouth and, wet or dry as well. Even though the portions are pillow shaped, meaning they are shorter and wider, they sit more comfortably in the lip in my opinion.

Well Snustopians, I hope this sheds a little light on the taste differences between true Swedish snus and Camel SNUS. As a homework assignment, I encourage you all to visit Mr. UNZ at SnusCentral.org and read his articles on Camel SNUS and other American snus. Who knows, I may even see you there!
As always, I welcome your questions and comments and, will answer them as soon as I can!

Happy Snussing!

That Snus Guy

9 comments:

Aaron said...

Nice job! Well said!
I hope your new year is off to a great start. I've kind of been in isolation mode and not blogging much except for the knife blog...but I'll be back. And I have a care package headed your way soon.
:)
-A

Anonymous said...

Can you get Swedish Snus in the US?

Thanks, enjoyed the blog.

TobakGuy a.k.a. Rob Jarzombek said...

Hi Anonymous!

Yes, General snus can be purchased here in the US at select tobacco shops. If you go to www.generalsnus.com, there is a store locator to see if there's a shop near you!

Happy Snusing,

That Snus Guy

The Hawg! said...

I just picked up a ton of this yesterday (freebies!) Not bad -- I prefer the "Frost" to the "Mellow," but both of them taste quite good (although not for long).

However, it sure as hell doesn't pack the punch of big ol' pinch of longcut, wintergreen Red Seal and costs a lot more ($5.50 around here for 15 pouches).

Still, not bad. Luckily, this is Arkansas -- a spit bottle being on a desk is as common as sin. I could well see someone buying this if they were prohibited from dipping in their offices, however.

Anonymous said...

I've been dipping now for over 10 years, started when I was 15, I know, young and dumb. I was researching snus when camel came out with it here in the states and started using that because of snus being better for you. Come to find out American snus is just like anything else we have over here that you put in your body, really, really bad for you lol. Anyways I'm interested in ordering some actual Swedish Snus but would like to try some first, any ideas on how to get some for free before I buy some?

Thanks
Joe

TobakGuy a.k.a. Rob Jarzombek said...

Hi Joseph!

Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the world of Swedish snus! As for getting samples, there is a link at the top of the page, under the Northerner banner, that will take you to generalsnus.com. Once you register with them, you can request a free sample of the 5 General flavors!

Once you try them, give Northerner.com a try. When you click on the banner, you'll get 10% off your first order with them! Thanks again Joe and Happy Snusing!

That Snus Guy

baz said...

I just rec'd a shipment of Swedish snus directly from Sweden. I ordered 8 cans, all different flavors and strengths. I've tried Camel snus and agree that it is too damn sweet - yet it seems to give a bigger, faster nicotine kick than the Swedish stuff. Good for my habit, probably VERY bad for my health (since Camel will not disclose HOW they make their snus and we all know how ####ing addictive cigarettes are). I've tried two Swedish kinds so far. The Offroad Cranberry was mild and herbal and as I write this I'm enjoying Goteborg's Rape No. 2 and it is salty and strong on herbs, very different, very refreshing, no smoke stinky fingers, no bad breath, no ash. I wish it had more nicotine kick (it’s a mild trickle that takes the edge off my craving), but then I'm doing this INSTEAD of smoking, so I'll bear with it. Another note, when you open a can the portions of the Swedish stuff are slightly moist to the touch and the aroma is quite strong. 6 more flavors to go!Thanks for YOUR review! PS - Camel snus is on sale now, trial offers to get you hooked. Presumably the price will jump to $4-5 bucks a can. Swedish snus is $2-$4 a can. I got 8 cans (picked for flavor descriptions) from buysnus.com and my TOTAL price including shipping via Swedish Post Office was $34.72 and THAT is a great deal, and if you do teh math you'll see the savings over a year.

Anonymous said...

I bought three rolls of Thunder Mini+ from BuySnus.com. It is supposed to be "frosted" so I just assumed it would be somewhat comperable to Camel's. It's very "wet" so much so that if squeezed it drips. I taste no "frost" at all - BuySnus.com states that you can email them and return a product - the link for contacting them will allow you to type a message but it will not allow you to "send" - the packets are smashed together, wet, and gummy and taste just awful.

Anonymous said...

nice pic of a snus - kind of artful